Posts by Cold Steel

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Atheism would not appeared if …

by venus in

· if religions were immune to division.

· if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

· if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

Cold Steel

Venus, I can see what you're saying, but if you read the great patristic scholars and churchmen (both Jewish and Christian), religion isn't painted with your brush. How would you define "supernatural" for example? Is God supernatural? Not if he exists. How about dark matter? Neither can be seen, felt or measured.

How about miracles? How difficult would it be to change water into wine if one understood and had mastery over string dynamics in science? Could advanced beings use it to create worlds, clad beings with spirit, then matter? Part the Red Sea? If God exists, and if he's revealed himself to us as the scriptures state, it would stand to reason that He would be a master scientist. And according to Genesis, God not only is plural ("we," "us"), there also appears to be a female element ("male and female, in his image"). That man is incapable of comprehending the worlds God creates should be no more difficult to accept than quantum mechanics, which we haven't even touched.

God has repeatedly told man than he (Man) is completely unable to understand the things of God at this point of his, Man's, development. If the Hebrew prophets simply made God up, they did an outstanding job of consistency over the ages -- more so than any other theology.

Thus, if there is a God, it stands to reason He would reveal Himself...and conceal Himself.

But this is the key to theology.

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Atheism would not appeared if …

by venus in

· if religions were immune to division.

· if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

· if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

Cold Steel

Religion Would Never Have Appeared:

If science were immune to division
If text books were immune to scientific errors
If scientific leaders were immune to hypocrisy

That means science created religious people. And in comparison with scientists who mostly followed their grandparents’ observations, religious people with revealed teachings fared better because they had thought out life far more roundly than those who were blindly scientific.

Not surprisingly, Jesus taught his disciples, but eschewed hypocrisy (Mathew 7:21-23) because he knew that mere belief in God is not the sole factor in the final judgment, but God goes by one’s attitude and commitment to that which they'd been taught (Mathew 25:31-36; 8:11-12).

Depends on how one looks at it.

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I Smell Fear...

by pale.emperor in

msoneone of fb sent me this.

looks like they know they're being exposed as the frauds they are.

this plus the theme of the next convention "don't give up" just reeks of desperation.. stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/b21fe47ca2644a0ea2f6e28fe6401145.html

Cold Steel

“Surely there is ample evidence to show that you can trust the channel that Jehovah has used now for nearly a hundred years now to lead us in the way of truth.”

I noticed the reference to the above was the "faithful and discreet slave" passage. I love the circular logic they employ, then they tell you to remember where you learned these things (as if the sage teachings were so profound that one hears them and shakes their head and says, "Yeeeeeees!" ).

So how did Jehovah establish this divine "channel" that He's used for almost the past century? Who did He command to establish it? When the Lord told his apostles, "For ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ordained you," didn't that mean they didn't organize themselves?

Yet the Governing Body kind of organized themselves, didn't they? Or did Jesus approach them and choose them? And why is there no record of such an auspicious occurrence? We know how God chose Moses, don't we? And Aaron? And Joshua? Elijah and Elisha? Samuel? Jeremiah? "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth from the womb I sanctified thee and ordained thee a prophet to the nations!" We have accounts of each of these, right? Yet we have not a single word of how the GB was chosen or ordained. Not a peep. But we're told God never changes, that He's the same yesterday, today and forever. And that God will do nothing except He reveals it to His servant the prophets.

Since Jehovah has been using this channel for nearly a hundred years, it must be one heck of a story about how He chose them and ordained them.

So where can it be found?

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A nurse describes a noblood death

by OrphanCrow in

the jehovah's witness protection program.

my first clue that 'something was up' lay in the fact that it was 7 am in the intensive care unit and getting to my patient was a challenge for all of his visitors in his room.my second clue that 'something was up' lay in the fact that my patient was african-american and all of his visitors were white.now before we get all racially sensitive, i am very aware that many families are blended in many ways and many of us are close friends with people of all races.

however, in the hospital where i work, it is an uncommon sight to see a room full of white people at the bedside of a black man at seven in the morning.

Cold Steel

Man, I can just see that little guy with the flip-up glasses in my mind's eye. I wonder how many JW medical doctors there were on the staff there...or other any staff for that matter? It must be great having a bunch of white guys come into one's community, give them a 50¢ book, ask them leading questions, baptize them in a swimming pool, give them bad medical advice, then plan the funeral whilst you choke all night with a parched dry throat from lack of blood!

The sad thing is, the medical staff probably never had a chance to counsel the patient without the wormy guy being present.

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Saying "CNN is fake news" is fake news

by Coded Logic in

cnn has the highest rated accuracy level out of any cable network.

okay, so that's not setting the bar very high.

but i see people on this forum bashing cnn ad nauseam.

Cold Steel

And then there's this.

Is ELVIS Alive?

http://www.probatelawyerblog.com/2010/02/the-elvis-presley-conspiracy-is-elvis-alive.html

Read all four articles before leaving any insulting replies, please.

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Saying "CNN is fake news" is fake news

by Coded Logic in

cnn has the highest rated accuracy level out of any cable network.

okay, so that's not setting the bar very high.

but i see people on this forum bashing cnn ad nauseam.

Cold Steel

Spoletta » You can assume that you've defeated me with your brilliant rebuttals and barrage of right wing links, so I'll let you bask in your victory.

Truth is truth, it's not left or right, and it requires reason, substance (not smoke) and an open mind. If Jesus weeps every time you hear something that troubles you, perhaps it's best you not seek after it.

Pizzagate is another example. I find it difficult to research because of the nature of the allegations; however, anyone who researches it, reads the e-mails and the FBI and NYPD background knows there's something to it. When I hear people in the media dismiss it, I know they've either failed to read the info or they're most likely complicit in it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=K6vvx2rHid0

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No screenshots of jw.org?

by charity7 in

hey guys!

saw this posted on social media and was wondering (super curious) what this was about?

i was reading the comments and many people were saying that we need to be obedient because the end is coming?

Cold Steel

Well, you know, if that's what the Governing Body wants....

When they say the end is right around "the corner," what corner are they thinking of?

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Is time moving faster?

by Fisherman in

jw
friends

do you get the feeling that time is moving faster?

what do you think?.

Cold Steel

Time is perception as well. As we live longer, our perception of time seems to go faster than it did during the first 20 years of our lives. That first twenty really seem to go on forever. From 40-60 the years seem to go much faster and the answer seems to be in our perception of how time flows.

I like to think the last twenty or so will go very quickly, but those are the ones most of us dread the most. Not only in the strength and energy we lose, but in the loss of our friends, or spouses and other family members. We lose the ability to think and retain.

I have a friend who lived the first 62 years of his life becoming a 3-star admiral. Every star looked great and he'd stand in front of a mirror and say, "Man that star looks great! Another one would look even greater!" And with each one his power would grow. He was whisked in and out of doctors' offices. People held his door open. And when he retired, he said, he wanted to stay in Washington because that's where his friends were.

But that all came to an end. The day after he took those stars off, the friends stopped calling. The dinner parties dried up and he became another geriatric in a waiting room. He moved to North Carolina and played golf with other old men who dressed in clashing clothes. He didn't lose his wife, fortunately and she was with him to the day he died, but every thing he thought was important to him he lost. And when those admirals and generals add those stars, part of them see what's coming.

That's why I hope a part of us becomes wiser and doesn't lose hope. Because if that's all there is, you might as well save yourself the trouble, as did a neighbor of mine. Suffering under the ravages of cancer, he wrote his wife a note while she was away, and taped it to the door leading out to the garage. Then he sat down in a chair and shot himself in the head. Very sad.

It didn't surprise anyone, though, as he was a member of the local Hemlock Society. So it's all in perception of time, I think.

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Saying "CNN is fake news" is fake news

by Coded Logic in

cnn has the highest rated accuracy level out of any cable network.

okay, so that's not setting the bar very high.

but i see people on this forum bashing cnn ad nauseam.

Cold Steel

It has more to do with new coverage and analysis. As a conservative and a journalist, I was trained in ethical objectivity. If doing a series on the death penalty or gun control, for example, or right to work, I should write it so that my audience has no idea of where I come down on the issues.

CNN and the other networks sin not only by commission, but by omission. How many covered the fact that our former chief executive was never even properly vetted before running for President? (I refer, of course, to Obama's lack of any valid birth certificate.) Every single one proffered by the White House at the time has proven not only to be a forgery, but very poor forgeries! We don't even know who his real father was, but we know his book, Dreams of My Father, was a laughable piece of fiction, yet only the so-called "alt-right" covered the many inconsistencies.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gqlEEHdaFFM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7EAxesVQ8wo

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Pharaoh tries to kill all male babies - later Moses orders the very same thing!

by George One Time in

so many things that i just discoved about the bible.. .

so from the book my book of bible stories, we all know how little moses was saved from a cruel pharaoh.

of course the king of egypt was afraid that those cute little babies would endanger his empire eventually.

Cold Steel

George One Time » That is what Moses did to the Midianites. Even all the baby boys were to be killed, not the female babies.

The difference is that both the Mideanites and the Canaanites were monsters. They weren't just peaceful farmers who suddenly found themselves facing Israelite swords and spears. The cultures were driven by base sexual rites that included the ritual murder of infants. The Canaanites were a profligate, bloodthirsty lot. They were beyond redemption. And though it's popular for critics to judge things with incomplete knowledge, I find it...unwise...to judge God based on incomplete knowledge.

When Korah appeared before Moses with his family and supporters because they couldn't hold the priesthood, and when Moses and Korah lit them to see to see whom God would support, there came a great earthquake and the ground opened and swallowed Korah, his family and his supporters. But even though Moses never touched Korah, it's interesting that the people blamed, not God, but Moses for their deaths. There's no human I know of who can create an eathquake, but the people apparently felt Moses had deceived God into backing him, and they were too frightened to blame God. Still, Moses defended the people.

To judge God or the Bible, one should know every aspect of the arguments one is purporting. God proposed wiping out all the people to settle Moses' problem, but He knew Moses would object, sparing them. So unless you know the nature of God and what the people were up to, you're in danger of judging wrongly. And many of the people died because they so presumed.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/246641/jewish/Korahs-Rebellion.htm